It looks cool, but can it work on the streets? I%26#039;ve never seen anyone use it in real life (just in the movies).|||It can work on the streets, but only after spending many years in practice. When I use to train at the Hawaii Aikikai many many years ago (When I saw Steven Segal in %26quot;Above The Law%26quot;) there were many Honolulu Police Officers who trained at the dojo. I would ask them if they ever used Aikido in a situation and they said %26quot;Yes, many times, but mostly to control a suspect and cuff them.%26quot;
I switched to Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu after training Aikido for 8 years when a good friend who trained Jiu-Jitsu beat me in a sparring match 10 out of 10 times after training Jiu-Jitsu for just 6 months. I was never taught how to defend against leg kicks, defend against a double leg takedown slam, and once on the ground I was clueless to what was happening.
I would say 95% of all Aikido schools do not train realistically for the street. Most don%26#039;t even practice defense against kicks. Look at the United States Aikido Federation Testing from 5th Kyu to Shodan (1st dan black belt) there is no testing for defense against kicks.
Randori (multiple attackers) is not trained realistically as well. Most of the time your attackers are taking turns one at a time and
only try and grab you half *** because they are more concerned about taking ukemi (falling).
Sorry I%26#039;m just pissed because I trained for 8 years religiously (5 days a week for 1-2 hours) and my Aikido failed me in a sparring match against a different style. What if it had been a real street fight?
Aikido is still beautiful to watch and practice. You do get a good workout running around taking ukemi, but I would choose something else more street effective.|||Not saying it isn%26#039;t effective, but I%26#039;ve seen a few fighters early in the MMA days around %26#039;93 or %26#039;94 before brazilian Ju jitsu and wrestling totally took over that were blackbelts in aikido. I didn%26#039;t see anything in any of the fights that even resembled aikido. Just ended up them throwing a few punches being taken down and beaten into submission.
I%26#039;ve never practiced aikido, but I have watched some documentaries on it. The problem I see with it is it always seems like your opponent has to be running at you with his hands streched out like superman. Which I%26#039;ve never seen a fight go down like that. Maybe I%26#039;m wrong on aikido though.|||Aikido is highly effective, fully defensive martial art. The first principal alone is %26quot;Get out of the Way%26quot; (basically - and a principal I failed to re-learn having been so ingrained to %26#039;block%26#039; so I had to quit) and since it follows up with redirecting someone%26#039;s force of attack your opponent is really just setting themselves up to get hurt - you%26#039;ll just help them along.
While I%26#039;ve never had the opportunity to use the limited Aikido I know (and at an early level I knew how to break peoples arms if I wished) I do have a friend who%26#039;s a brown belt in Aikido (he doesn%26#039;t want to make black belt because in our region you have to register yourself with law enforcement should you %26quot;accidentally%26quot; kill anyone)... I can%26#039;t beat him in a pound for pound fight. I have a background in Tae Kwon Do, Aikido, Judo, Karate and Kung Fu. I%26#039;m taller and generally stronger than he is, physically but the only way to beat him in a fight is to not throw a punch or kick that the Aikido can use against me - no matter how much smack he talks I just have to smile and say %26quot;whatever, I%26#039;m still not going to attack you... I win!%26quot; even a fake jab has landed me in a wrist lock.|||talk about stirring up a hornet%26#039;s nest. I%26#039;ll try to be as diplomatic and polite as possible.
The problem with Aikido is that it has a reputation for not training with any resistance.
How can you learn without resistance against a fully resisting opponent? Simple you can%26#039;t.
However, this doesn%26#039;t mean there isn%26#039;t a legitimate Aikido school out there that does eventually pressure-test it%26#039;s techniques and train with full resistance. Most don%26#039;t.
If you want more discussion about it ask at www.bullshido.net|||It is a very effective Martial Art, but it%26#039;s also a very technical art to learn. a lot of it is using your opponent%26#039;s power against him and keeping him off balance.
it%26#039;s a very non aggressive discipline, but many of it%26#039;s techniques are effective if used or executed properly.|||No, it is one of the sh1ttiest %26quot;martial art%26quot; (in my opinion it%26#039;s not even a martial art anyway) ever. I%26#039;d rather do tae bo or cardio kickboxing or even ballroom dancing. At least it gets you in a good shape and has a nice work out, wich is something that is also non-existant in aikido.|||Take a note from Bruce Lee take what is good from the art and use what works for you then get rid of the rest|||Remember this...Just about all Martial Arts styles need to be modified for Hollywood. Aikido takes a life long dedication or in plain English, what you may be shown today may be what you%26#039;ll be doing for a very long time before you learn something new. Please don%26#039;t get me wrong, all Arts have there merits. I suggest you stop by your local Dojo and watch as many classes as possible and have some questions. In my area there is only one Aikido School. I hope you have more then that to compare and make the right choice. I have been in Martial Arts for more than thirty years and have studied more then one Art, I do hold dan rank in more then one system. If you are looking for a fast and very effective Art that works on the Street look into the Art of Kenpo, it is designed to defend ones self against multiple attackers from different angles. Check out any of the Jeff Speakman movies or even better yet, just go to his web-site for a video sample. Today many of the Kenpoest sites have technique samples. Enjoy and I wish you the very best.|||Yes, it is a good art. Not what I practice but I respect the art %26amp; those who do practice it.|||Aikido is a legitamate martial art but i don%26#039;t think it is very effective by itself. Aikido%26#039;s techniques are meant to nuetralize the aggression of your attacker by redirecting their force, which is why its referred to as the Art of Peace. Many of the throws and holds are effective ways of temporarily immobilizing your opponent but they do not subdue them or take away their ability to continue their attack. I haven%26#039;t been in many fights outside the ring but they usually consist of a few strikes, a clinch, and then leaning on a wall or going to the ground. This is where I%26#039;d imagine an Aikido practinoner would not fair so well.. Separation and distance are key in Aikido, like most traditional martial arts, and when youre in close quarters there are very few techniques at your disposal because you have no leverage. I believe the Aikido%26#039;s %26#039;finishes%26#039; are weak as well. There are a few stikes and similar versions of arm bars and chokes you see in Jui Jitsu but the emphasis is knocking your opponent out with the ground, which as cool as it sounds, doesn%26#039;t happen that often. Aikido is a great art to learn redirection, throws and takedowns but you have to know where to take it from there because, 9 times out of 10, when you throw someone and just stand there, theyre going to get up and be a little more angry than they were a second ago. I trained with an Aikido master and it was a great asset to my overall game. Take a few classes, learn some jui jitsu and muay thai and you%26#039;ll do just fine.|||yes it can. by practicing aikido, you build up the reflexes and unconciously remember the movements, so when someone tries to steal your purse or something, you can get them under the arm and grab the purse out of their hand without even thinking about it.
edit: you don%26#039;t need to train hard and break brick walls in order to have skills and be able to use them. aikido isn%26#039;t about %26quot;attacking%26quot; it%26#039;s about self defense and how to react in stressful situations. and it%26#039;s not violent.|||Aikido: WTF, artful form of evasion that%26#039;s all this is. Great ******* concept but stop saying you%26#039;re a martial art, you%26#039;re not. If you%26#039;re not going to engage the opponent and you%26#039;re a bunch of whining pacifistic cultist seeking enrichment then fine, go eat your tofu and leave the real martial artist to the real people. Don%26#039;t get me wrong I love some of this **** but if you like most of the aspects and want to learn how to defend yourself find an Aikijujitsu school that does some level of sparring and leave this **** to the ball room dancers.|||I trained for 4 months in it at one stage to see what it could offer me, and I wasnt impressed. why the hell would you want to train in Aikido for years, when 6 months in Muay Thai will work to eliminate a threat? the lack of adrenalised sparring means that on the street, the fine motor skills that Aikido uses (even if you have them in bedded in your memory) will not be effective. you will suffer from the adrenal dump, which directly (and scientifically proven) affects your fine motor skills, making them clumsy. only gross motor skills remain to enable fight or flight.
kicking and punching remain, but joint manipulation of the degree Aikido offers is gone. they end up punching, just like everyone else.
when a guy jumps out in front of you asking for your wallet, the fear forces adrenaline to pump you up, and that fear will destroy your Akidio finesse. you cant stop the adrenaline, though you may adapt to it. but aikido training doesnt get you into the adrenaline zone so you never learn to feel it and train while your heart is racing. man, its like everyones happy all the time. reality isnt like that.
its a martial art for hippy%26#039;s. to redirect the enemys energy, so that there are no losers, only realisation of your superiority. well screw that. if someone wants blood, give them their own back. I wouldnt do it unless you want to be skilled at Aikido itself.
I wouldnt do it if you want to be able to defend yourself. nothing stops a person better than being knocked out. you dont need to hold them down, and you can move onto the next person. oh yeah, you forgot about that in aikido too. life isnt a Segal movie.
train in something that uses gross motor skills, and trains using an unplanned attack. Aikido training is nothing but Kata, which teaches moves, but not reality. people dont punch with one arm alone, people fire off multiple swings at a time.
as someone who has trained in a few different areas, I wouldnt recommend this one to anyone, or I would be letting them down.
As for control %26amp; restraint applications of Aikido, you can learn them as a separate theme from many close combat gyms, BJJ gyms, or law enforcement/ doorman seminars. you dont need to learn Aikido to control. so how do Aikidoka control the person? We crack the face to enable an open window. a much more effective entry tool.
thumb me down if you want you Aikidoka clones. but I have yet to see an Aikidoka on a door at a club.|||From what I see, I wouldn%26#039; bother learning aikido. They seems to perfer do role play instead of training hard and realistic.|||One good thing about aikido is that it teaches you to use your %26#039;attackers%26#039; energy/ki against them, thus enabling even %26#039;small/short%26#039; people to defend themselves/deflect an attack.
I would recommend aikido to anyone.
Aikido is a Japanese martial art developed by Morihei Ueshiba (often referred to by his title %26#039;O Sensei%26#039; or %26#039;Great Teacher%26#039;). On a purely physical level it is an art involving some throws and joint locks that are derived from Jujitsu and some throws and other techniques derived from Kenjutsu. Aikido focuses not on punching or kicking opponents, but rather on using their own energy to gain control of them or to throw them away from you. It is not a static art, but places great emphasis on motion and the dynamics of movement|||Most of the MMA guys will say aikido doesn%26#039;t work, but then again, MMA rules outlaw many standard aikido moves. If you want to fight in a cage, pick another art (although, to tell you the truth, these days most MMA bouts have degenerated into %26quot;who can get hit the most and still stand up%26quot; matches. Very little quality MA these days in %26quot;MMA%26quot;.)
On the other hand, many police departments in Japan use aikido as their primary hand-to-hand skill, which should tell you about it%26#039;s real-life effectiveness.
Yes, it takes time to learn, but most quality skills are not acheived overnight. Many of the answers I%26#039;ve seen so far have been from guys who trained in it for a few months and therefore their exposure to the art is extremely limited.
In short, yes, aikido is effective on the street.|||Is Aikido effective? That%26#039;s an odd question. Almost any form of martial arts training can make you a little better in a fight. Is aikido OPTIMAL? No. Is it the most effecient way to learn to fight? No. Even the most vehement support of Aikido would admit that it takes a certain philosophy - in this case, varing degrees of pacifism, depending on the aikido school - and uses only techniques that conform to that philosophy. So if by %26quot;an effective martial art%26quot; you mean, %26quot;Does it maximize fighting skill as quickly as possible,%26quot; I would say no. You will get proficient, quicker, in other arts. I would only advise someone to train in aikido if they already knew a martial art and wanted to study an interesting varient, if they were a dedicated pacifist, or if their reason for wanting to study was excercise or culture first and personal defense second. With rare exceptions, aikido schools also have low or no participation in sports competition, either at the light contact %26#039;sport karate%26#039; level or the harder contact MMA/Kickboxing type of competition, so if light or serious competition is something you expect from an art, aikido is not for you.
Short answer: I don%26#039;t denigrate aikido totally, but it%26#039;s not the straight line route to fighting skill, and it may not be the best first art for someone new to martial arts. As always, there are many branches of many martial arts, so YMMV based on the actual school and teacher in your area.
ALSO, IRT to Bard Noir, above, I don%26#039;t believe there is any part of the world where you actually have to register with law enforcement on reaching a certain point in the martial arts. I could be wrong about the rest of the world, but I%26#039;m quite certain you don%26#039;t have to anywhere in the US at least. Your friend might do well to consider his source.
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