Thai kickboxing, aikido and judo is that all i need ?

i know i might need some bjj and ground work, but the military don%26#039;t offer any good ground im interested in


aikido for deference stand up grappling


judo for offensive stand up grappling


thai kickboxing for striking|||I have to agree with pugs. You only need one to have the ability to defend yourself and your loved ones.





I have studied several arts. Not to make myself more complete or so-called invincible. My first art was offered at my high school. I stopped because I graduated. My instructor moved and it was too far for me to go while attending school full time and working full time. I searched for a good school and good instructor until I found one. I just happened to be one that teaches more than one art. As far as I know I am the only person that he has awarded rank in more than one art. We don%26#039;t teach the jujitsu to many people. There are times that he does teach the jujitsu to others people of black belt rank, but they aren%26#039;t his students. I know this sounds strange. But many black belt come to him and ask for his training for themselves or for their students in their studio. Often he asks me to go with them to help teach or test them.





But I like knowing several arts for the knowledge. But I am well aware that and tested that I only need one art to defend myself. I don%26#039;t need to do a jumping spinning hook kick. That takes too much energy. I%26#039;ve learned to keep it simple, especially if there is a possibility that their are more than one attacker.|||I have to disagree with pugpaws on his statement that any of the traditional arts contains techniques designed to be effective at all four ranges of unarmed combat. I have yet to see any ground work in TKD, Karate, or Kung Fu besides the usual pull the hair or finger jab the eyes techniques. I also have not seen BJJ or Judo teach any striking. The exception would be BJJ where some schools do teach striking. Also I would have to ask pugs what he considers a traditional martial art? Muay Thai is just as old as karate, and Wrestling is older then Kung Fu. Just because the practitioners of these arts don%26#039;t wear a gi or do katas doesn%26#039;t mean they aren%26#039;t traditional Also Pugs you might want to remember the early days of the UFC where there were practically no rules, and the ground fighters dominated the many striking arts because they lacked any ground training. They exposed a great weakness in the striking arts, but yet I still run into martial artists today that say they don%26#039;t need to train for the ground because they can never be taken down or they train in grappling for a few months and suddenly they are experts. Thats total ignorance, not cross training.





Ok now to answer your question. Your doing good with the judo and Muay Thai. For ground work you should check around for some wrestling classes which I%26#039;m sure they have where your stationed.|||The answer I see it is in your own mind. Judo can be very nasty if a man adapts it to fit his environment. Can a elbow, kick, punch or knee deliver the same amount of damage as dropping another person onto concrete on their head and neck with their own accelerated body weight plus that of your own? Doubtful.





Thai boxing is great there is no doubt but its all in the situational adaptation.





Of course what you need is subjective to what you need? Are you sport fighting, training for life and death trench warfare, a bouncer, or a police officer? The emphasis of training depends on the environment of operation.





For example we don%26#039;t train bodyguards to shot MP5%26#039;s and then send them to the former eastern block to work where they will most likely be using weapons form the AK family and similarly we don%26#039;t teach HRT teams to use pepper spray when entering a room full of hostages.|||I agree with pugpaws2. Everyone hears so much about MMA that they begin to think that it must be true.





From everything I%26#039;ve heard, you should always start with one (1) martial art. If you like it, continue, if not stop and try another. After a couple of years (that%26#039;s YEARS, not %26quot;days%26quot;), you can try adding another. Any single martial art (excluding martial sports) should be one that you can use to defend yourself in any situation.





More specifically, concerning your reasons for taking aikido and judo, there is no such thing as defense or offense in martial arts. Your defense is your offense, and your offense is your defense. I would pick either Judo (which includes (or should include groundwork, but really doesn%26#039;t include grappling) or Aikido.





Of course that takes years to get good enough to actually use this stuff.|||In 1950 Bruce Tegner develop a mixed martial art he called JUKADO: JUdo, KArate, aikiDO - which is all you really need.





Another named mixed martial art is KETSUGO which consists of Karate, Judo, Jiu-Jitsu, and Savate - and that is all anyone needs.





I studied a mixed martial art which consisted of: Kodokan Judo, Hakko-Ryu Jiu-Jitsu, and Goju-Ryu Karate since 1968, and that is all I have ever needed.





Here is a Canadian mixed martial art which is still effective, and that is all you%26#039;ll ever need:


http://www.judoinfo.com/pdf/Combato%20Th...|||What makes you think that that is even a good blend of arts? I%26#039;m not saying that they aren%26#039;t. What I%26#039;m getting at is this. Why do you feel a need to study several arts (half-assed) rather than to study one martial arts completely. The whole problem is one of the public being ignorant and mislead by others comments and ignorance. Any of the traditional arts (if the whole art is taught) contains techniques designed to be effective at all four ranges of unarmed combat (kicking range, punching range, trapping range, grappling range). when a whole art is learned nothing else is needed. Those that persist with the idea that they need to take a few things from several arts in order to create something that is more complete delude themselves. If that were true none of the original martial arts would have survived for so long. go ahead and re-invent the wheel if you wish. From your standpoint that may seem to be wise. However you do not have the experience to know what is and is not correct. Form my perspective of over 41 years of devoting my life to the practice and research of combat arts, I see you wasting your time trying to create something that is already available in any traditional arts that is taught in its entirety.


Best of luck!





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Brian F





I respect your opinion, but I stick by what I said. Because you have not seen complete self-defense taught in karate does not mean that it does not exist. To be honest with you I have rarely found it myself. However, I have on a few occasions found those few rare individuals that were taught and do teach the whole martial art they study. So yes it is rare, but it is out there. Just hard to find with all the instant martial arts out there. Regards!|||lol. If only that were all someone would need. That would be a good combination and would work pretty well, but don%26#039;t limit yourself to just taking those three. There are many good martial arts to learn.|||All you %26#039;need%26#039; for what? It%26#039;s not possible to give a reasonable response without more details.





If you %26#039;need%26#039; self defense, buy a gun.





If you %26#039;need%26#039; fitness, most any martial art will do.








Jx2|||Judo does have groundwork; immobilizations,armlocks and chokes-which are not taught to beginners.|||Jiu jitsu, grappling and kick boxing, oh men if you mastered these discipline your a god..im telling you