Saturday, November 14, 2009

How practical is aikido?

i was thinking out taking this class, at a college, and it will only be about 14 weeks. can i learn enough to make it work? i train in mixed martial arts as well.|||It is only as practical as you make it. I have to admit that alot of the training isn%26#039;t realistic at all, but on the other hand, there is alot of it that you can use for self defense situations such as the evasions, locks, and pins. The throws however are a different story........





Alot of the beautiful throws that you may see in a dojo are like that because they are done without resisting opponents. They literally throw themselves and they have to in order to prevent their limbs from being broken or their bodies forcefully hitting the ground, causing injury. That is the downfall to Aikido%26#039;s throws...........you will never really know the effectiveness of them until you try them in a real-life encounter.





Certain styles of Aikido are really hard and practical and others are just plain useless and the only thing that you can use from them are the philosophies and concepts.





The downfall to any type of Aikido training is that it takes years to be proficient at it. My own personal thoughts is that one needs to know how to defend themselves as soon as possible, because you will never know when you will have an encounter with anyone.





Alot of people say that it takes years to learn all of the Aikido techniques, but the thing that they don%26#039;t realise is that out of all of the techniques you will learn from martial arts, you will only be able to use a few of them.|||aikido from what i have been seen and been told is very pretty. but a proficient kick boxer would eat em for breakfast.|||Aikido can be as light or as deep as you make it. It is a life long training, but in a single session you can learn a lesson for a lifetime. So go ahead and try. Keep an open mind.|||first off what style of Aikido are you taking? Tomiki/Shodokon,Yoshinkan,Shinbu,14 weeks/3 months is not long at all, to really learn alot. sure you should be able to know how to break fall, forward roll, and maybe alittle on flipping.but as far as knowing alot of techniques and doing them well the answer is NO. Yes you will be shown techniques but for you to be able to use them on the street with great effect the answer is maybe. Depends if you train on your own while out of a dojo environment, at least 1-2 hours each day. You would have to spend at least 6 months to be able to reach your 1st belt and then you wouldn%26#039;t know but only 23 techniques at best.





How practical is Aikido, it is very practical has very effective techniques but to be able to pull them off on the street requires at least 1 -1 1/2 year%26#039;s of training, but then you would be limited on what techniques to use meaning you would only know some were around 50 techniques.





good luck|||14 weeks can give you an introduction and perhaps a few useful throws or pins but not enough to be proficient of course. It is very practical and have heard of several people using it in self defense but they were higher belts. Many police departments provide or give preference to candidates that have aikido due to it%26#039;s ability to pin or control the person attacking.





P.S. Steven Seigal (spelling??) uses a mix of aikido and other martial arts if you have seen any of his movies.|||I did aikido for a little while. A little while being about ten weeks, once a week. It wasn%26#039;t for me, I prefer strikes. But let me explain something. Aikido is one of those arts that really emphises the %26quot;do%26quot; part of it. Aikido is a martial art wrapped up in a lot of philosiphy, legend and even a little spirituality. I wasn%26#039;t there long but I learnt a lot which I find invaluable.





Ki concepts


Practising harmonisation with your opponent


Rolling


And a few techniques.





I%26#039;ve often thought about going back to it but in the end I know it%26#039;s not for me. My adivice to you is: If you have the open mind and patients to listen to the ideas behind the art then take it even for just fourteen weeks. You wont be a master and you wont be guranteed to learn the most effective of their techniques in such a short time. However you will learn some things that are good to know.





Of course if all you really want is to hit stuff and do it well then don%26#039;t bother.|||Not very.





Aikido is the weakest martial art, structurally. They train with very little to no resistance, resulting in poor and impractical technique, and base their fighting strategies off of unrealistic expectations. The art is based on nonviolence, a paradox, as it is impossible to have a nonviolent way of fighting. This is why no Aikidoka has ever stepped into the Octagon with this style, and hence why we can say definitively that Aikido is Bullshido.





Not only that, but to gain any sort of competency in Aikido, or really in any martial art, cannot be done in just 14 weeks. After years in Aikido, you still won%26#039;t be the least proficient in the art, because of the difficulty and impracticality it employs in it%26#039;s fighting methods.





With that amount of time, the only art you could possibly hope to learn is boxing. A 14wk-old boxer would destroy any Aikido practitioner.





And no, I%26#039;m not trying to sound like I%26#039;m the best fighter in the world, but some styles like Aikido and Tai Chi just don%26#039;t cut it in reality.|||14 weeks is not enough. for some, fourteen years is not enough. As the gentleman that had disapproved a few answers above, you will only see the light sides of Aikido in 14 weeks.


I disagree with his answer in part. Many people are attracted to Aikido as an art of discipline alone, and not for the practicality as a martial art. That is not Aikido, that is aerobics tied in with dance and yoga.


Let%26#039;s establish a little history. Aikido has it%26#039;s roots in Aikijutsu, Ju Jutsu, Kendo/jutsu, and Jodo, primarily. The only difference in technique is that Aikido teaches you how to control and submit your agressor (uke) without damaging them, or allowing them to damage anyone else either.


Unfortunately, you will not find many traditional schools in the USA that will train with full intensity though. Very uncommon. The premise behind Aikido, because it is a non damaging art, is that when you become proficient enough in the art, you and your peers can train at a non stop 110% because you will not hurt one or other. This means group on one attacks, kicks, punches, grabs, strikes, which aren%26#039;t emphasized a great deal to the novice.


So no, 14 weeks is not enough. But if you decide it is something that calls to you, then don%26#039;t limit yourself to 14 weeks.|||Aikido is practical and effective. Much depends upon the practitioner as is the case with every discipline.





The real question here should be, is taking up the study of Aikido for 14 weeks worthwhile. Again, I would suggest to you that ALL knowledge is worthwhile. You will certainly not become proficient and competent in anything complicated or complex in 14 weeks, but you will get a taste and an insight into the concepts, philosophies, and technqiues it employs.





If you find one golden nugget that you incorporate into your MMA style, then it was well worth the effort. You may well find more than one nugget.





If you have the time, the money, and no other pressing committments you must give up to take the classes, why would you not try it out. I presume you could always leave the program early if you are unconvinced one you begin.





I personally like the Aikido philosophy and concept. While I do not study Aikido myself, I have played with many Aikido practitioners and find that my own merged styles of TaeKwon-Do and HapMoosaKi-Do lead me on a very similar path in many instances to that which an Aikido practitioner would follow.





Go for it dude....what do you have to lose.....and how much may you gain from it?





Ken C


9th Dan HapMoosaKi-Do


8th Dan TaeKwon-Do


7th Dan YongChul-Do

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