Monday, November 16, 2009

If aikido is so deadly how come you don't see it in MMA?

Please don%26#039;t give me the %26quot;true aikidoka are so spiritual and deadly they never use it unless it%26#039;s life and death%26quot; nonsense.|||It%26#039;s primarily a combination of 2 things:





1) Most Aikido dojos don%26#039;t train for real fight conditions. While many dojos will eventually encourage the %26quot;attacker%26quot; to provide resistance to the %26quot;defender%26quot;%26#039;s counterattack when both have proven to be skilled (and therefore know how to be safe), they still know what attack is coming in before it happens. Very few Aikido dojos do anything that approaches actual sparring, so most Aikido practitioners don%26#039;t develop the practical reflexes needed to apply their art in real combat.





2) A large portion of Aikido is small-joint manipulation, which almost all MMA organizations ban as one of their first rules. That would be like throwing a Muay Thai guy into a boxing match. They still have some moves that work, but not many.|||1. Many of the moves are not legal in MMA





2. Many of the moves are 0 to 60 breaks, unlike armbars they%26#039;re designed to break, no option of submission





3. It%26#039;s against the philosophy of the art to compete





4. The majority of dojo have bad technique and don%26#039;t train with any aliveness or resistance





5. The strikes it defends against are outdated, they were used mainly by armored samurai





6. It works at a different distance with the idea that this person is pissed and really trying to harm you while you%26#039;re keeping distance so their strikes are going to be larger to close the distance





7. Much of the different systems focus on many grabs on the gi





8. It doesn%26#039;t go to the ground because the belief is that if they%26#039;re down there you can stomp them or leave





I%26#039;m not saying it%26#039;s ineffective. However the majority of places don%26#039;t train effectively, don%26#039;t have good technique, and many of the techniques just aren%26#039;t practical in a sporting venue.|||Aikido is not a %26quot;deadly art%26quot; it is a system of throws and joint locks that are mostly incompatible within the MMA arena due to the rules in MMA and also the way most Aikidoka train does not prepare them for handling a fight, many people train Aikido as if they are dancing with a compliant partner more then as a martial art.





And many of the people who train Aikido don%26#039;t realize that Morihei Ueshiba the founder believed that you should have a black belt in some other martial art such as karate or judo before training Aikido as it is not complete on it%26#039;s own.|||Aikido is a defensive art and hard to use offensively. many of the finishing moves are also illegal. As are the traditional Tae Kwan Do finishing moves. That is why most of the MMA fights you see go to the ground and end up in submission.


Not to take away from the athletic ability of the MMA folks. MMA fighting in the ring is still not the same as life and death situations. So you can%26#039;t use the same techniques or you would run out of competitors. It also doesn%26#039;t make a good show If you just reduce it to points for the best technique.


So it ends up with it is what it is. Just as you would not fight the same way Boxing bare handed as you do now in a ring with great big gloves on the whole style of Boxing changes.


There seems so much argument over this it seems just common sense to me. Sport is sport not combat. It is like sport pistol vs combat shooting you need whole different approach when the target is shooting back.


To say Akido doesn%26#039;t work is a stretch. Is it the best art for self defense I don%26#039;t have enough knowledge about it to say it is not. I do know many other arts use many of the locks and throws used in Akido.|||Not everything has to be in MMA to be proven a good martial art. Martial Arts teach you not to fight and are for discipline, You honestly think Aikido would be used as a sport? It%26#039;s to leverage- based, Plus, the martial arts you usually see in the octagon is usually BJJ, Muy thai, Judo, Styles of Karate, etc. Know why? they are for fitness and sports, they usually concentrate on one person, and the majority of them are external arts.|||Aikido is a traditional discipline where the practitioners do not believe in competition. What you often see in Aikido are demonstrations between members of the same Aikido school who attack a skilled aikidoka and then he floors them with locks and throws. I think that the philosophy of Aikido is extremely incompatible with the UFC. Aikido is the way of harmony and the UFC is the way of making a lot of money by beating your opponent to a pulp or making him submit. A lot of aikidokas would lose in the UFC precisely because they don%26#039;t train to be as fierce as the UFC fighters.|||This is my opinion; I lay no claim on my statements as fact.





Most people who practice aikido do not professionally compete and therefore do not train at the level of professional fighters.





I believe Aikido works on absolute split second timing. The techniques become extremely low percentage when a person tries to force a technique when the timing is not perfect. For this reason, the learning curve is very gradual. Other martial arts offer a quicker learning curve and rely somewhat on techniques that can be %26quot;forced%26quot;.





I believe that MMA sporting events limit the scope of potential outcomes down to three possibilities. K.O., submission, or win by scorecard based on striking. Now Aikido doesn%26#039;t focus intently on striking, so K.O. and scorecard are not compatible. Submissions are present in Aikido, but other arts train in a greater range of submissions so they tend to offer MMA competitors more tools to pull out.





What is missing from MMA events that we find in unrestricted fights is the ability to deescalate, to deflect, and to remove one%26#039;s self from a conflict. Aikido does focus on this aspect of a fight. It focuses on ending conflict by deescalating, redirecting an attack, and maintaining safe distance from an attack.|||THIS IS only A Guess.





- it probably works a lot with moves that are not allowed in mma, for example small joint manipulation and striking vital spots; spine, eyes, groin, and throat. In short, Akdio is probably dirty fighting. That%26#039;s the same reason hopkido is not in mma-- at least the style i did--and we don%26#039;t believe in competing.|||There is a difference between sport martial art (MMA) and traditional. MMA takes hard styles and puts them together. Like muay thai, BJJ, boxing, etc.. Aikido is soft, Yet deadly. DO NOT EVER let UFC or MMA decide which martial art is good or bad! Its the practitioner not the art.|||I%26#039;m no expert, but who told you Aikido is %26quot;soo deadly%26quot;


I mean it could be, but the point of Aikido is to diffuse the situation as fast as possible with little harm to the attacker.





I could go on, but that%26#039;s why God invented Google!|||It is not made for sports but for fights. Aikido itself does not even fight for belts just spars at half speed.


The tv show Human Weapon did a good show on Aikido and they asked that question.|||because most MMA fighter only use Muay Thai, Wrestling or boxing, and Brazilian Jiu jitsu. my guess is that since Akido is a traditional martial art it really isn%26#039;t meant for the UFC octagon.|||Aikido along with Aiki-jujutsu, Judo and Daito Ryu are extremely deadly.





Judo and Daito Ryu practitioners would easily take down and have full control of any MMA fighter.|||because in the world of MMA it does not work....|||its too awesome of a style for it

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