If the world were in slow-motion and attacks involved punches that stay still in mid-air, aikido demonstrations would be great. But so far I can%26#039;t find anything unchoreographed. Are there any?
(I know, they%26#039;re for demonstration only. But without real sparring how are you meant to develop what works in real life or not?)|||Hmmm...interesting question and interesting, yet uninformed people answering it LOL
The answer is that is the role of an Uke, or the one who receives. Let%26#039;s look at it this way. You are a beginner in a martial arts school and all they do is beat you up. Day in and day out...eventually you realize that all the pain is not helping you and you quit. Then one day you get into a situation that you have to fight and use your skills. You ball up and get pounded like you did in your school...did you learn?
It is called SAFETY. All martial art systems must have guidelines for conduct of students and learning to work together. I have studied Aikido for many years, along with Iaido, Kendo and Karate. Once we had the techniques down, as well as how to RECEIVE the attack safely we did go almost full force because we knew that we would not harm our training partner.
If you ever train at an authentic dojo with a real master the first thing you will learn is that you must first receive before you can dish out. This way you have learned to work with your partner, can train forever and get really good at your system. Any other people out there who teach it is all about the beating, or amount of, are not real or true masters but rather full of their own egos and BS.|||You answered your own question...because it%26#039;s a demonstration and not sparring!
There are many aikido practitioners who have used their techniques successfully to get them out of dangerous altercations. The main thing that is taught in most aikido clubs is if in the instance where you are confronted with no option to talk your way out of or avoid confrontation, create a situation where you can escape at the earliest opportunity. This is probably the best form of self defence that I can think of compared to being told to go toe-to-toe with an attacker.
If you%26#039;ve ever studied aikido you%26#039;d realise how potentially dangerous it is to spar as there%26#039;s an element of risk of serious injury due to the fact that most techniques focus on both large and small joint manipulation and throwing your opponent using their momentum whilst including joint locks. Believe me from experience I stupidly tried to resist a lock and came very close to having a broken wrist.
I%26#039;ve also joined a judo club since practicing aikido and have noticed that many of the techniques I%26#039;ve practiced in Aikido could be applied to help me defend against certain judo moves IF small joint manipulation was legal.
There are some aikido clubs that are not great in getting the balance of resistance and can sometimes be too compliant which renders the practice useless. But like any MA club practicing any style it depends on how it%26#039;s taught as to how effective your techniques can be.
It%26#039;s also important to remember that sparring also has it%26#039;s restrictions as there are rules to abide by which do not reflect real life attacks.
Even just by getting used to someone trying to punch, grab and kick you gives you an edge because you%26#039;re likely not to just freeze and not know what could be done to stay safe Just look at how beginners or people not familiar with self defence react when a punch, kick or grab comes their way...they clam up. Whether it%26#039;s aikido or any art you%26#039;re conditioned not to panic due to repetitively training against different scenarios. There%26#039;s no one art which can boast a guarantee that it%26#039;ll %26#039;work on the street%26#039; but by just practicing good technique with a balance of resistance gives you a better chance of surviving and escaping.|||I%26#039;m not sure if you%26#039;re talking about demonstrations in a public venue or the demonstrations in class.
In class, it does no good to demonstrate at full speed, because most students will have no idea of what just happened. We normally do one or two throws at full speed, then the instructor slows in down and breaks it down and then finishes with one or two throws at full speed.
If it%26#039;s a public demonstration, I have to ask if the demonstrators were wearing hakamas. If not, then there is no way to tell the proficiency of the students (and even if they do have them, some schools have students wear hakamas before they reach shodan).
Aikido is technical, as has been noted, and it takes a long time to train your reflexes to react properly. Attacking a newer student at full speed does nothing, because it doesn%26#039;t teach him the timing or give him a chance to develop the muscle memory.
The closest thing to %26quot;sparring%26quot; in Aikido is randori, where multiple opponents take turns attacking nage from different directions. Nage is faced with a constantly changing situation, and must be ready to meet a variety of attacks and demonstrate a variety of techniques. You have to be loose, relaxed, and be ready for whatever throw or attack comes your way, because like has been noted before, this is not a sport. It can be dangerous to resist, and broken bones and severe sprains can result if you try to fight the technique. Randori is a test requirement from Nikyu on up.|||There%26#039;s lots of reasons why and if you want to understand them you should visit an aikido dojo an experience it.
- If you resist... you just get injured. If your fingers are getting bent backwards there%26#039;s no other option than to go with it.
- Aikido doesn%26#039;t have dramatic punches but subtle twists to joints. Try twisting your wrists beyond the 180 degrees they normally go and you can see how little force is needed. You can also see your whole arm is immobilised.
- Aikido is a complicated M.A. and that%26#039;s (more than) half the point of it. Here%26#039;s a concept to think about: Completing the move is more important than defeating your opponent. i.e. your opponent is not a person but the art.
- Aikido is 50% defense from wrist grabs and the rest is against 3 different types of strikes.
1. A swinging arm to the side of the head (yokomen attack)
2. A direct swing to the head (shomen attack)
3. A stab/punch to the stomach (tsuki attack)
(I think this will directly answer your question)
When you watch aikido you will see the defender showing 10+ different ways to deal with a certain attack. The attacker is there to allow the defense be demonstrated/practiced NOT to beat/hit the defender.
So now you know what to look for maybe you can appreciate watching aikido next time you have a chance.|||Because the absurd, overly complicated solutions to unrealistic attacks wouldn%26#039;t work otherwise.
Think about how many Aikido demos you%26#039;ve seen where a guy will run full speed at another guy and do a big, telegrpahed knife hand at the other guy, and the Aikido demonstrater does a slight shift and he goes flying. If the Uke wasn%26#039;t running like a flippin moron, then he wouldn%26#039;t be able to be manipulated so easily. I%26#039;ve never seen or been in an actual fight where someone ran at me like that.
All of the overly choreographed, telegraphed techniques in Aikido are beyond unrealistic, as are the solutions that Aikido offers to them. |||that depends on the demo.
aikido is very technical, and thus takes a long time to learn.
learning most techniques starts from a static excercise which is gradually built up to a fully flowing technique over the course of years.
A few weeks back we gave a demo with our own club where we neatly showed the evolution from beginning students to evolved.
and even then for a demo you tend to throw in a bit more spectacle to entertain the audience. It is not aikido as you would truly use in a real life situation.|||A demonstration is not a fight. Training is not a fight. Why is this so hard to understand?
When you see a demonstration, it%26#039;s usually a technique demonstration. So the techniques will be done in training forms. So the strike comes in and the person moves and performs the technique and uke allows it. During training, you use this time to learn the technique, then take the technique further -- how do different forms of resistance change what you have to do, etc. If it%26#039;s a case of, from square one, uke is resisting, tori will never be able to learn to properly do the technique, feel how it%26#039;s supposed to create changes in balance, or generally grow in the art (that is, he%26#039;s simply brawling). There is a place for everything, and patience is incredibly important to learn to see it.
In Steven Seagal%26#039;s dojo, the black belt test was a three-man randori. The attackers could do anything and the student had to fight them off again and again (they%26#039;d just keep coming)... Probably one of the best examples you could see.|||It was a concept that revolutionized sport science and training a long time ago. You perform how you train. If you dont spar and you dont encounter resistance or realistic strikes, you wont fight well. That%26#039;s not to say aikido doesn%26#039;t have any apllications or practical training, it%26#039;s a big world. Money is a big motivation.||| Just looks that way,When being taught, the instructors show a move at regular speed,then go through the parts of the move so students can see how to do it.You should find an Aikido class,take a couple free lessens.If have to experience it first hand.|||well who is to say that they do not spar. I have seen BJJ demo%26#039;s it looks like the zombie thing you are talking about.
I am 100% positive there are people out there in aikido that cross train and spar for real application of there art|||tomiki aikido involves sparring.
although the sparring is done within set rules it is still sparring none the less.|||they use your power against you just like judo sandman|||not the arts but most schools are **** compared to the real deal|||Because Aikido doesn%26#039;t really work.
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