Saturday, November 14, 2009

Would Nihon Goshin Aikido or BJJ be more effective in a street fight?

training hard enough in any martial arts would give you advantage in street fighting.





regarding your question, Aikido will give you better advantage in street fighting than bjj, its techniques are simpler thus quicker to master, easier to learn and doesnt require great physical effort to apply.





also Aikido doesnt put into account the difference in weight between you and the opponent, it applies the principle of using the opponents strength against him, thus regardless of your attacker%26#039;s weight and strength, you can still beat him, on the other hand bjj and most martial arts, do require weight match, for example in bjj you cant perform a take down to your opponent if he greatly out match you in weight, even if you performed it correctly (technique and timing wise)





besides using bjj in a street fight will bring the fight to the ground and mess your clothes up :)|||its the man ,not the style/system.work hard in your training and you can achieve anything. good preperation means good performance.|||As I%26#039;ve said before, anyone who thinks all styles are equal for self defense must have been living under a rock for the past 15 years. Hundreds of mma fights have proven what works and what doesn%26#039;t. BJJ is effective against all other styles in a one-on-one fight, but is not well suited to multiple attackers or weapons, so you should cross train with a striking art. As for aikido, who knows? Since they don%26#039;t believe in testing their skills in competition, I can%26#039;t comment with any certainty on its effectiveness. But I do know from sparring with a few aikido guys that their techniques are not nearly as effective as they think they are!





With respect to Jon, %26quot;how you train%26quot; is an integral part the art itself. Some traditional styles train by doing lots of katas and punching and kicking the air, without ever facing a real opponent. Tae Kwon Do and some other styles train by doing a lot of light contact point sparring, which is not very helpful for self defense. Aikido trains by doing pre-determined moves with cooperating opponents, with little or no real sparring. BJJ trains by doing lots of rolling (full speed, full power submission grappling againt resisting opponents). This is one of the main reasons it is so effective!|||BJJ is the epitome of the marial art philosophy of the weak winning over strong and ending the fight with minimal harm to the oponent actually





The proof is there from early UFC fights where there was no weight devisions and the gracie family would beat guys much bigger than them so one on one BJJ I would say is the most refined and powerfull system, if you can get good at it which is very hard, it%26#039;s one thing to know a technique and it%26#039;s another to execute it in a fight





Which brings me to my next point, if you don%26#039;t practice full force like you are meant to (yes even Aikido, there are Aikido places that train with full force) then it will mostly depend on the fighter, but if they don%26#039;t train full force, I mean they will still have a good chance against an attacker, but the difference between which one is better will be large and one on one against each other the art that practices live sparing will ownr a large percent of the time, unless the guy has some street fighting experience and has practiced applying their skills





It%26#039;s all about the experience|||Your training methods are what matters, not the style.|||BJJ would be aweful in street fights. i dont know what the other one is. but with BJJ, you take the guy to the ground, lose all your periferal vision and pretty much invite buddies friends to come curb stomp you. trust me, you dont want a fight to end up on the ground ( even tho most do )|||It%26#039;s how you train Alex; That%26#039;s what matters. It doesn%26#039;t matter how good BJJ is: If you train like crap, have a bad school, and don%26#039;t know anything about fighting people in the street: You%26#039;ll fail. It%26#039;s not about the style. All MMA has proven is that some styles normally train harder than others, which does equate to better abilities, but it still isn%26#039;t a measure of effectiveness. Besides: Most styles are defensive instead of offensive/hybrid like most that are done in MMA. Someone in Aikido beating someone that is in MMA is like someone getting killed by someone with a shield, when they%26#039;re armed with a knife and a shield. Skills and training method win.








Edit- It depends on the Aikido school. Some Aikido schools actually do Randori.





And how light contact are you talking? There is such a thing as full contact Tae Kwon Do. Contact is about how hard your hitting: Remember that. Point-sparring is obviously not going to help, but not all Tae Kwon Do schools do that. If there%26#039;s any amount of me trying to score a knockout: It%26#039;s more than light contact.





Fighting ranges matter too. BJJ is newaza and light standing grappling. That%26#039;s great, but there%26#039;s no strike training. Aikido is throwing, and mostly joint locks, which its ineffectiveness then is judged by the ranges it emphasizes.





What you were talking about WAS training methods too, just like some others have said. That can be remedied in any situation, and don%26#039;t judge TMAs like that when training methods can be switched to be better, worse, or straddle the fence of street readiness.





No: How you train is NOT an integral part of how you do an art. If it was, then arts wouldn%26#039;t have substyles within them that vary. Kung Fu is the totality of Chinese martial arts. That means SAN SHOU is under that term.|||I agree it is the practitioner and not the form that matters. Also the opponent. Curtain styles match better against other styles.

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